Andy Brough & Simon Curtis have determinedly worked their way through a broad range of surrogacy arrangements – international, domestic, gestational and traditional, to arrive at parenthood. They started their journey about 5 years ago in India but had a stillborn at 21 weeks. They tried again but then India closed to gay couples. Andy’s sister-in-law offered to be their surrogate and they joined Egg Donation Australia to find a donor. After a few unsuccessful attempts with Andy’s sister-in-law, they took up their egg donor Carla Pincombe’s offer to carry for them, using her own eggs ( traditional surrogacy). Their perseverance paid off when they became dads in late March 2017.